Post by Lucas Brightshield on Mar 14, 2013 17:42:09 GMT -5
You forget the Solari, Karthus. But you got a point. The Rakkor are Solari worshipers, save for Diana. Personally, I see Demacians as Ancestral, maybe even demonstrated by Jarvan's shield description. In Noxus, submitting to faith would be seen as a weakness, I think. Zaun and Piltover are too busy handling technology to really watch a state religion. Ionia is all about Balance. In Bilgewater, the only thing that seems to matter is firepower and coin. Honestly, In my eyes. only Bandle City and Freljord are open enough to leave doubts. The yordles may be Deistic, but I think Freljord is more Animistic. They have prophets though, according to Sejuani's lore.
That's my 2 gold coins.
I am a Pathfinder. I will do what everyone else thinks below him, because someone must do it. Call me dishonorable for it all you want. I serve justice, not honor. And Demacia, ofcourse.
Post by The Ruined King on Mar 15, 2013 13:22:31 GMT -5
*Clears throat*
I am your god now. Bow before me and my legions of fall to us and rise as a mindless slave.
Buuut, I disagree with Lucus :3 In Noxus' Coat of arms they have various symbols, even a crucifix. The Rakkor, they would worship the art of war. Solari and Rakkor are seperate tribes as far as I know, just as the Lunari would have been had the Solari not obliterated them in some kind of religious war.
Even Karthus himself would have a religion, he worships death from what I gather.
The only 'official' named Canon religions would be Lunari and Solari from what I have read though.
I am the one who defied death. I am the one he fears. I am the on he can not take. One sweep of my hand and your nations will fall. Come for me you worms. You will all bow before my legions or be broken beneath us as we march upon your cities.
I am your god now. Bow before me and my legions of fall to us and rise as a mindless slave.
Buuut, I disagree with Lucus :3 In Noxus' Coat of arms they have various symbols, even a crucifix. The Rakkor, they would worship the art of war. Solari and Rakkor are seperate tribes as far as I know, just as the Lunari would have been had the Solari not obliterated them in some kind of religious war.
Even Karthus himself would have a religion, he worships death from what I gather.
The only 'official' named Canon religions would be Lunari and Solari from what I have read though.
I'm not going to say anything about Noxus, but. Leona's judgement and lore states that One: The less violent Rakkor BECOME Solari, Two: The Solari's "we want that girl" is more influencial than the Rakkor's "This girl must die" and Three: The Rakkor are not allowed to go on Solari territory, but the other way is no problem. that would make more sense if the Solari are atleast in high esteem with the Rakkor, and since the Rakkor only seem to respect power, The power of the sun is probably a important part, even in Rakkor.
TL;DR: Becoming a Solari is a privilege to the more peaceful, The Solari elders can undo Rakkor decisions, and there is a border which only keeps Rakkor back, not Solari.
PS: According to the JoJ, Malzahar has a Void Cult. Kassadin even has a cult to oppose Malzahar's cult. I'm not sure about Elise's followers though. From my interpretation, they seem more like Thralls than actual followers.
I am a Pathfinder. I will do what everyone else thinks below him, because someone must do it. Call me dishonorable for it all you want. I serve justice, not honor. And Demacia, ofcourse.
Post by Victus Brightblade on Mar 24, 2013 0:00:31 GMT -5
My problem with elemental spirits is that we got Anivia, Malphite, and Brand. All these are elemental spirits, but only Brand comes from Runeterrra, and he exists only to purge. Would other spirits not arise to stop this? If so, Brand either murdered them all or they fled from this world.
I am your god now. Bow before me and my legions of fall to us and rise as a mindless slave.
Buuut, I disagree with Lucus :3 In Noxus' Coat of arms they have various symbols, even a crucifix. The Rakkor, they would worship the art of war. Solari and Rakkor are seperate tribes as far as I know, just as the Lunari would have been had the Solari not obliterated them in some kind of religious war.
Even Karthus himself would have a religion, he worships death from what I gather.
The only 'official' named Canon religions would be Lunari and Solari from what I have read though.
A crucifix does not mean a religion, it could symbolize punishing treachery or the weak. The crucifix was originally meant as a torture/execution device, not a symbol to be worshiped.
As for religions in Ionia, I think there would be a large variety of them, whatever people believe will have them become enlightened, some may worship gods or nature/elemental spirits, others would be like Buddhism or Confucianism, the list goes on.
My problem with elemental spirits is that we got Anivia, Malphite, and Brand. All these are elemental spirits, but only Brand comes from Runeterrra, and he exists only to purge. Would other spirits not arise to stop this? If so, Brand either murdered them all or they fled from this world.
For the record, Brand is also not from Runeterra in our cannon. I'd write more, but my internet dies now.
"A crucifix does not mean a religion, it could symbolize punishing treachery or the weak. The crucifix was originally meant as a torture/execution device, not a symbol to be worshiped."
Yes, it 'originally' was meant as a torture/execution device. But now days it is seen as a holy symbol. Just as eating and drinking wine and bread symbolised flesh and blood. In all honesty, it could mean any number of things. Until we write the lore, or the admins write the lore. It's up to our imaginations.
Post by scriptedauthor90 on Mar 24, 2013 5:01:15 GMT -5
I would just like to say, officially, that Jaques worships Death and even references it as an absolute power. Such that he would even be willing to go into an entire seminar preaching about it and its imminence.
Post by Adeptis Lune on Mar 24, 2013 6:50:23 GMT -5
I'm going to add my 20 cents here. Ionia has monks and monestaries, indeed, champions like Lee Sin are all about finding the new balance. The Kinkou are almost like the Saints of it. Udyr went away from civilization to live amongst the animals, but was subdued by a monk who thereafter taught him to control his rage. Irelia is almost a personified reaction to the distortion of balance. Karma is all calm and almost rational, however, and cancels irelia out. And then you have Zed and Syndra, Disbelievers, I'd say, to the concept of Balance.
tl;dr I believe Balance really is what Ionia is all about, and the "bad" Ionians don't believe in balance.
((Also, I'm the same guy as Lucas))
Last Edit: Mar 24, 2013 6:54:24 GMT -5 by Adeptis Lune
Which is kind of funny when you think about it, they don't believe in it. Yet they are pretty much solidifying the belief that there is to be balance, the good and evil of things. If they wanted to prove it wrong, they could just stoping being what is generally seen as evil. Then, there would only be good and no evil to balance it out.
Post by Adeptis Lune on Mar 24, 2013 7:00:02 GMT -5
Ironic as that is, I don't think they actually Care. All they want is the power to have things their way, and they'll use every means to get it. And they get cast out by the guys who do believe in Balance
In Ashe's lore, it basically states that whilst the Gelid Vortex rips her companions to shreds, a 'divine presence' protects her from going the same way. Whether or not that's religion, I don't know.
On the topic of that, Soraka is technically a celestial being and believes in the 'stars'... not sure if this has been mentioned. So she's also not from this plane.
"A crucifix does not mean a religion, it could symbolize punishing treachery or the weak. The crucifix was originally meant as a torture/execution device, not a symbol to be worshiped."
Yes, it 'originally' was meant as a torture/execution device. But now days it is seen as a holy symbol. Just as eating and drinking wine and bread symbolised flesh and blood. In all honesty, it could mean any number of things. Until we write the lore, or the admins write the lore. It's up to our imaginations.
Still, the only reason behind the religious symbol of the cross and eating/drinking bread and wine is because of the Christian religion and what is claimed to have been done by Jesus. If the Christian religion did not exist, bread and wine would not have this symbolism, neither would the cross.
Also, I know Almy's belief is in the power of chaos and change, and that things are balanced when they are chaotic, so a perfectly ordered, unchanging system to her would be unbalanced. To better understand this, she studies chaos theory and experiments with chaos magic, which makes her all crazy.
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