The Void

Never disregard an option based on one factor alone. A character that conflicts with our understanding of the lore is not necessarily wrong, it just requires significant explanation and collaboration with the existing lore figures to justify. I will elaborate more on this concept if this thread becomes particularly contentious.

Can someone explain me how Kog is supposed to be evil?



Oh yeah... "Who says evil needs to come in a fearsome-looking package?"

That's a very good question Victus. Also I wouldn't eat you, too much iron.

Well here's my opinions and ideas of void culture:

((Important to note the void is huge not everypart of it is going to be the same. So there can be a lot of leeway in the specifics this is just an attempt to explain what it would be like growing up in the void. (Easiest way I can think to explain it.)))

Firstly what is the hierarchy of the void? This is important to establish as the priorities of one's existence would depend on how far up they are.

1) Larvae
2) Young voidling
3) 'Middle aged' voidling
4) Broodmother
5) Old/ alpha voidling
6) Voidlord/ god

1) Fresh spawn/infant/larvae/etc: So your broodmother has just given birth to a spawn of new voidlings. Congratulations, our numbers grow even more but what is your place in possibly hundreds of brothers?

Well at a glance it is simple, survive. In practice you have a hell of hard time ahead of you. To start of with you need food, (This will be a running theme in the void.) If your broodmother is nice she might provide some to start you of, if not you need to hunt, anything. The more you eat the more you grow and the less likely you are going to be eaten. Hunt down a larger voidling with your brood, fine, eat your brothers, good luck to you. Eat your mother, not unheard of. (Cho'Gath I'm looking at you...) However you do it at this stage, you need to eat by any means before something eats you.

2) Young voidling: Ok for a comparison this is what I would put Malzahar's voidlings at, small, vicious and dumb.

It is important to realize the larger void creatures can and will control swarms beneath them, be this by strength, fear or even psychic domination. (I don't think this is outside a voidling's limit as Malzahar was basically controlled by a voice in his head.) At any rate you will be either following a stronger voidling or trying not to be eaten by one.

You still are driven by your lust for food but now also your leaders orders, you are cannon fodder in their eyes. I would say this is kinda of a boring stage but i can't think how something of this age group could possibly survive in such a hostile environment on its own.

3) 'Middle aged' voidling: I would consider Kog'Maw to only just be reaching this stage of development perhaps younger and he was just born from a strong mother? Its your character not mine, just trying to help people get a relative idea of what these creatures are like.

Well first of all, congratulations from reaching it this far, to not be eaten by this stage is an achievement, out of 100 larvae you are part of the top 10 perhaps less.

Your development is starting bring across unique traits and you are starting to become an individual, perhaps you might even have a couple of young voidlings follow you as a pack leader but most likely you are still following an even stronger voidling. At any rate you are a killing machine and should be feared as such. Give it some time and you may even be able to overthrow you leader and claim his place.

4) Broodmothers: Now sex and gender for the voidlings are things that are widely left to assumption, so I won't lie when I say this is a bit of a blurry area for me. But i will give you how i think it would work under most circumstances.

So as long as a voidling eats it won't die, just continue to grow. But eventually something is going to eat you, even the broodmother's aren't exempt from this. Of course if too many die then their would be drastic decrease in the number of voidlings and therefore an abundance of resources so a new broodmother needs to born.

Now I would assume an eventual broodmother would be born different to the rest of the brood. (Perhaps under different conditions, locations, rituals? Be creative is the only suggestion I can think of.) But they will be rare and strong, after all they will bring forth half their genes to their eventual brood.

Due to their importance broodmothers are prized and often the target if a swarm is attempting to eliminate his rival. Most alpha's would consider their broodmothers as just a baby makers only cared for slightly more than the average voidling as they are few in number and without them he would have no swarm.

5) 'Old'/Alpha voidlings: Cho'Gath tier, simple as that.

Well your broodmother would be proud, it is unlikely that even one in an entire spawn will reach it this far and yet here you are, you stand over your swarm as its solitary voice of power, you are strong or smart or cunning, perhaps you even have more than one of these traits.

You will now be more interested in reproducing with a broodmother to further your swarm. Remember just because you are the strongest of your swarm doesn't mean other swarms will leave you alone. If another alpha thinks you are weaker he will bring his swarm against you. The only voice you follow is that of the voidlords, but besides that you are free to do as you please, just remember that surviving is important there is no such thing as old age so long as there is still food to be eaten.

5a) New alpha: Congratulations you have killed your previous alpha and taken over his place as the leader of his swarm, it is a dangerous time for you though, another of your swarm could easily turn against you to try and take your place and you must be on the look out for other alpha's that may see you as easy pickings. Show them you're not to be trifled with.

5b) Secured alpha: Things are becoming less turbulent and more up to you now, the threat of your own swarm devouring you has lessoned, though it will never go completely, you may get the odd foolish voidling but you will devour him for your own good.

You will also be working to further, yourself and your swarm by taking down weaker swarms or raiding others. Your position among the other alpha's will be moving slowly unless you have the traits to become a...

5c) Cho'Gath tier alpha: Sometimes an alpha gets the upper hand
becoming more powerful than his brethren, when one alpha takes another it is a big leap in his renown and strength. This often leads other alpha's to take apart the oversized swarm and its leader but what if they fail? Well just like feeding an AD carry in summoners rift, he becomes stronger.

Before you know it this alpha and his swarm will spiral into an ever growing strength until something larger stops it. Not restricted by the presence of other alpha's these beings answer only to the mighty voidlords.

6) Voidlord/god: Comparisons: Cthulhu

The voidlords are almighty, the voidlords are all powerful, if a voidlord tells you to move, you move, then thank him that he didn't just eat you. They are few in number and more ancient than your precious star. If one was to reach Runeterra you would have lost. Just looking upon one would shatter your mind like a plane of glass. His powers could sink continents, boil oceans and bring down the sky. The voidlord is the final place of any voidling and widely considered immortal, though no single voidling can currently even remember the last time an alpha ascended to such a status.

Fear them, because eventually they will claim your entire plane as their own.



Well that was fun, even if people will now look at me like an raving loony, anyway my point of this was not to restrict character ideas or me trying to say the void should be like... this is just how I think the void should be like.

To answer your questions directly victus:

The younger the voidling, the more chaotic they are as they are more dependent on getting food by any means. Older voildlings I would say become more lawful, as they follow their elders and start having wants beyond food.

Now working with good against evil is selfless against selfish I would have to lead to evil in all stages except maybe the broodmothers. As some could be argued to also care for their brood.

Any other questions, confusions or you just want me to be quiet and sit in a corner please tell me. I'm not trying to stifle creativity.

Good point, there is a massive gap between an alpha and a voidlord, it isn't hard to think that there could be a sub hierarchy E.g. King, baron, knight.

An alpha could easily just say to a broodmother, you're mine or else I eat you. But I was also suggesting that maybe a broodmother could approach a notable alpha and ask to be part of his swarm. (Note i'm not talking specifically about love, at then end of the day it is survival of the fittest, were the strong spread their genes and the weak get eaten.)

Broodmother details: The way I see it a broodmother may care for her brood to ensure as many survive as possible, so their is more available for the alpha's swarms. But not always, perhaps this way of thinking is considered harmful by other voidlings as it doesn't let the strong flourish. Even in the void morality issues can be argued, to assume all do the same would make it bland (In my opinion.)

Though this did make me think of something, how intelligent should a broodmother be? Should they just be mere mindless creatures that live to harbor the unborn, or intelligent, being able to make decisions and be respected among some of the alpha's? Perhaps even a mix, showing how multiple genetic pathways have created a variety of broods?

Also a good voidling in my eyes would be one that would be more interested in something else other than food, survival and reproduction. I wouldn't want to clearly strike it out but it would be important to realize that in this model this would be considered a weakness, going against the norm, but I'm sure someone creative out there could think of a way this could survive.

Sorry for being a bit 'fluffy' on the issue, but i still like to think of the void being a very chaotic place were almost anything 'could' happen but how well it survives is something else.

I am pleasantly surprised by how spot on everyone is. Love Kha's hierarchy; would be happy to sticky these guidelines if you care to format them and edit to include the potential rank between alpha and void lord. As Tekun said, The Void is based loosely off Lovecraftian lore, so I don't think there is the potential anywhere for "good" voidlings because they do not even have the same moral compass we do. Their aim is to consume and envelop all planes until nothing remains in existence but Void.

I just had a thought: what if summoning actually helps the void's spread?



Like Brand said, summoning leaves tunnels between dimensions. And what is the 'space between spaces' but the Void?

I could easily see the voidspawn using these tunnels to bore their way into new worlds upon which they could feed.